How much faster is PT4?

[Lakestone]

When is comes to importing last tournament hand and updating the HUD, PT3 is very slow if you have an advanced HUD. Is PT4 faster and by how much?
I run a i7 2.6GHz Dual Core with 8GB RAM with an SSD and my HUD can take a minute to update with PT3 if I play one table of Heads-Up - even though I recently did housekeeping.
This leads to many mistakes sometimes beacuse when I've played 10 hands and it only shows stats for 2, which is why I am considering upgrading to PT4.

[kraada]

Stats should definitely never get behind like that. Built in stats should always update virtually instantaneously. Custom stats will update as you specify in the Refresh Rates area, but for low numbers of hands it should also be extremely quick.

[sdlsdlsd]

In my short experience, PT4 is much slower than PT3 in some ways, and faster in a couple.

- Live import and refresh of hud is now faster.
- HUD popup stats are "slower" (since PT4 calculates them on the spot).
- Import of large numbers of hands is slower (not a big deal since you only need to reimport your entire db once).
- Loading reports is slower (i pray i'm doing it wrong cuz it's super slow, with or without filters).

[kraada]

Which reports are you looking at? If you pull the default stats Sessions and Sessions Won sometimes that can speed things up considerably and some reports should be awfully snappy by default. It depends on whether we can use the cache (counting up how many sessions you won can't be done with the cache as it's currently built).

Have you changed your HUD popups at all? Custom stats can take longer to load but built in stats should be pretty darn quick since they're cached.

[Lakestone]

What is slow is my HUD updating even though I set the refresh rate to 3-10 secs. I have ALOT of advanced custom built stats in my HUD, I guess that is the case. But should it really take several minutes sometimes to update?

[StevenM]

What is slow is my HUD updating even though I set the refresh rate to 3-10 secs. I have ALOT of advanced custom built stats in my HUD, I guess that is the case. But should it really take several minutes sometimes to update?

Custom stats are not cached, this means the database must process what may be gigabytes of data to determine the results of your custom stats while you are playing, hence the delay. Did you make these stats yourself? Did you download a pre-made package with a HUD that was originally created for PT3? If you can give us some examples of the calculations you are performing, we may be able to give you some advice for optimizing your HUD design.

[sdlsdlsd]

Which reports are you looking at? If you pull the default stats Sessions and Sessions Won sometimes that can speed things up considerably and some reports should be awfully snappy by default. It depends on whether we can use the cache (counting up how many sessions you won can't be done with the cache as it's currently built).

Oops, by "reports", i meant Results/Statistics. Speeds are actually not too bad when loading the current session only. I was loading lifetime stats when seeing very slow speed.

Have you changed your HUD popups at all? Custom stats can take longer to load but built in stats should be pretty darn quick since they're cached.

I don't use custom stats, yet all the popups still seem to be calculated in real time. At least that would explain why it takes half a second for popups to go from blank to populated. In PT3 popup population was instantaneous (cached i'm guessing).

[kraada]

In PT3 popups were actually queried when the HUD was initially displayed - now popus are queried on demand as needed.

Regardless, please restart PT4 using the Logging Enabled link on your Start Menu and reproduce this problem. Then please send us the PokerTracker4.log file via a support ticket so that we can investigate this further for you. You can find this file by clicking File -> Open User Data Folder in the main PT4 window. The file we need is the text file called PokerTracker that's in the folder that appears.

Once we see the exact queries we'll be able to determine if you're getting cached queries, exactly how long they're taking, and if not, what stat or stats are keeping the queries from being cached for you.

[IntraTop]

Hi,
I checked the Tournament Graphs tab and it took 17 min for the graphic.
I like to know if this time is as expected or longer than that.
The graph is for 1900 tours, 160K hands. The computer is i5@3,4 GHz, 8 GB ram almost idle.
Thank you

[kraada]

That seems like a long time for that little data. What is the speed on your hard drive?