[Minor] Wrong AI EV for Zoom Hand?

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[Minor] Wrong AI EV for Zoom Hand?

Postby Shandout » Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:29 am

I just played the following hand:

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PokerStars Zoom Hand #77826192148: Hold'em No Limit ($0.01/$0.02) - 2012/03/26 3:53:31 ET
Table 'bltable.1225795485.1225821870' 6-max
Seat 1: shtulp ($2.19 in chips)
Seat 2: Shandout ($2.10 in chips)
Seat 3: diegoconceic ($2.57 in chips)
Seat 4: trepi93 ($0.41 in chips)
Seat 5: Mr. Top1 ($1.81 in chips)
Seat 6: mattgood61 ($5.99 in chips)
Shandout: posts small blind $0.01
diegoconceic: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Shandout [2h 2s]
trepi93: raises $0.06 to $0.08
Mr. Top1: folds
mattgood61: calls $0.08
shtulp: folds
Shandout: calls $0.07
diegoconceic: calls $0.06
*** FLOP *** [2d Jc 4d]
Shandout: bets $0.24
diegoconceic: raises $0.79 to $1.03
trepi93: calls $0.33 and is all-in
mattgood61: raises $2.17 to $3.20
Shandout: calls $1.78 and is all-in
diegoconceic: calls $1.46 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.71) returned to mattgood61
*** TURN *** [2d Jc 4d] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [2d Jc 4d Kc] [3d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
diegoconceic: shows [6d Jd] (a flush, Jack high)
mattgood61: shows [Ad 9d] (a flush, Ace high)
mattgood61 collected $0.90 from side pot-2
Shandout: shows [2h 2s] (three of a kind, Deuces)
mattgood61 collected $4.90 from side pot-1
trepi93: shows [Tc Js] (a pair of Jacks)
mattgood61 collected $1.58 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $7.65 Main pot $1.58. Side pot-1 $4.90. Side pot-2 $0.90. | Rake $0.27
Board [2d Jc 4d Kc 3d]
Seat 1: shtulp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Shandout (small blind) showed [2h 2s] and lost with three of a kind, Deuces
Seat 3: diegoconceic (big blind) showed [6d Jd] and lost with a flush, Jack high
Seat 4: trepi93 showed [Tc Js] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 5: Mr. Top1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: mattgood61 showed [Ad 9d] and won ($7.38) with a flush, Ace high


The hand went in on the flop, with me ahead by around 75 %. While reviewing the session I saw that the hand was labeled a 100 % expected loss, I also didn't have an "All-in Equity" in the "Hands for Session" tab for this hand. I'm just curious if I got a special aspect of AI calculations wrong or if this a minor bug 'cause I normally don't check every hand for a Zoom session.
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Re: [Minor] Wrong AI EV for Zoom Hand?

Postby WhiteRider » Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:02 am

If you haven't already please update to v3.13.2 Beta - there was a problem with 3-way all-ins not being calculated in the previous version but I'd expect to see all-in equity calculated for this hand in the latest version.

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Re: [Minor] Wrong AI EV for Zoom Hand?

Postby Shandout » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:18 am

I'm running the .13 beta of PT4 ;)
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Re: [Minor] Wrong AI EV for Zoom Hand?

Postby Shandout » Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:41 am

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PokerStars Zoom Hand #77885538256: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2012/03/27 7:26:09 ET
Table 'bltable.1225924903.1225952813' 6-max
Seat 1: Shandout ($5 in chips)
Seat 2: robee1984 ($5.02 in chips)
Seat 3: Sarstar88 ($4.73 in chips)
Seat 4: Nooob101 ($14.23 in chips)
Seat 5: adrex españa ($3.15 in chips)
Seat 6: feeeelingood ($6.08 in chips)
robee1984: posts small blind $0.02
Sarstar88: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Shandout [As Ad]
Nooob101: folds
adrex españa: folds
feeeelingood: folds
Shandout: raises $0.10 to $0.15
robee1984: calls $0.13
Sarstar88: raises $0.20 to $0.35
Shandout: raises $0.80 to $1.15
robee1984: calls $1
Sarstar88: raises $3.58 to $4.73 and is all-in
Shandout: raises $0.27 to $5 and is all-in
robee1984: calls $3.85
*** FLOP *** [Qc 2c Td]
*** TURN *** [Qc 2c Td] [8h]
*** RIVER *** [Qc 2c Td 8h] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
robee1984: shows [Tc Ac] (a flush, Ace high)
Shandout: shows [As Ad] (a pair of Aces)
robee1984 collected $0.52 from side pot
Sarstar88: shows [Kh Ks] (three of a kind, Kings)
robee1984 collected $13.60 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $14.73 Main pot $13.60. Side pot $0.52. | Rake $0.61
Board [Qc 2c Td 8h Kc]
Seat 1: Shandout showed [As Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: robee1984 (small blind) showed [Tc Ac] and won ($14.12) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: Sarstar88 (big blind) showed [Kh Ks] and lost with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 4: Nooob101 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: adrex españa folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: feeeelingood folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Another hand with the same 0 % EV result.
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Re: [Minor] Wrong AI EV for Zoom Hand?

Postby kraada » Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:16 am

There are significant equity improvements coming for the next Beta - we've already confirmed your last hand should work in the current developer's build so things will likely be much better then (though any affected hands would need to be purged and reimported to show the proper values).
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