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Looking for some stats

Postby PandaLife » Thu Mar 22, 2012 5:16 am

Actions when skipped Cbet
Skip flop Cbet OOP: check/fold - check/call - check/raise
Skip turn Cbet OOP (cbets flop, checks turn): check/fold - check/call - check/raise
Turn when Skip flop Cbet IP: fold - call - raise
River when Skip turn Cbet IP (cbets flop and turn, checks river): fold - call - raise

Fold to 4bet in SB/BB after 3betting vs steal

Bet IP vs Missed Cbet: flop - turn - river
Bet OOP vs Missed Cbet: turn - river

Delayed Turn Cbet: IP - OOP - 3bet pot
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Re: Looking for some stats

Postby kraada » Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:22 am

Could you please elaborate a little more what you mean by these scenarios? I suspect many of them are already in our system for you but without further clarification I won't be able to be certain.
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Re: Looking for some stats

Postby PandaLife » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:35 am

DNAPANDA wrote:Actions when skipped Cbet
Skip flop Cbet OOP: check/fold - check/call - check/raise


Preflop: Villain raises, hero calls.
Flop: Villain (out of position) checks (this is the "trigger"). Hero bets, Villain xxx this is the scenario I want to track. Villain will either check/fold, check/call, or check/raise.


Skip turn Cbet OOP (cbets flop, checks turn): check/fold - check/call - check/raise

Preflop: Villain raises, hero calls.
Flop: Villain bets, hero calls.
Turn: Villain (out of position) checks (this is the "trigger"). Hero bets, Villain xxx this is the scenario I want to track. Villain will either check/fold, check/call, or check/raise.


Turn when Skip flop Cbet IP: fold - call - raise

Preflop: Villain raises, hero calls.
Flop: Hero checks, Villain checks (in position) (this is the "trigger").
Turn: Hero bets, Villain xxx this is the scenario I want to track. Villain will either fold, call, or raise.


River when Skip turn Cbet IP (cbets flop and turn, checks river): fold - call - raise

Preflop: Villain raises, hero calls.
Flop: Hero checks, Villain bets, Hero calls.
Turn: Hero checks, Villain checks (in position) (this is the "trigger").
River: Hero bets, Villain xxx this is the scenario I want to track. Villain will either fold, call, or raise.


So, when "trigger" happens, I want to track Villains tendencies in the scenario, which will be his next action.

Fold to 4bet in SB/BB after 3betting vs steal

Preflop: Player 1 steals, SB or BB 3bets, Player 1 4bets, SB or BB folds.

Bet IP vs Missed Cbet: flop - turn - river
Bet OOP vs Missed Cbet: turn - river

(Bet IP) - Preflop: Hero raises, Villain calls.
Flop: Hero checks, Villain bets (in position) - I want these scenarios for flop, turn and river when the preflop-raiser checks (missed cbet)

(Bet OOP) - Preflop: Hero raises, Villain calls.
Flop: Villain checks, Hero checks.
Turn: Villain bets (out of position)


Delayed Turn Cbet: IP - OOP - 3bet pot

Preflop: Villain raises, Hero calls.
Flop: Hero checks, Villain checks.
Turn: Hero checks, Villain bets (in position)


Preflop: Villain raises, Hero calls.
Flop: Villain checks, Hero checks.
Turn: Villain bets (out of position)


Preflop: Villain raises, Hero 3bets, Villain calls.
Flop: Villain checks, Hero checks
Turn: Villain checks, Hero bets
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Re: Looking for some stats

Postby kraada » Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:14 pm

DNAPANDA wrote:Actions when skipped Cbet
Skip flop Cbet OOP: check/fold - check/call - check/raise


Preflop: Villain raises, hero calls.
Flop: Villain (out of position) checks (this is the "trigger"). Hero bets, Villain xxx this is the scenario I want to track. Villain will either check/fold, check/call, or check/raise.
[/quote]

The stats you want are Fold to F Float Bet, Call F Float Bet and Raise F Float Bet. Hero's bet in that spot is called a Flop Float Bet in PT4 terminology.

DNAPANDA wrote:
Skip turn Cbet OOP (cbets flop, checks turn): check/fold - check/call - check/raise

Preflop: Villain raises, hero calls.
Flop: Villain bets, hero calls.
Turn: Villain (out of position) checks (this is the "trigger"). Hero bets, Villain xxx this is the scenario I want to track. Villain will either check/fold, check/call, or check/raise.


The stats you want are Fold to T Float Bet, Call T Float Bet and Raise T Float Bet. Hero's bet in that spot is called a Turn Float Bet in PT4 terminology.

DNAPANDA wrote:
Turn when Skip flop Cbet IP: fold - call - raise

Preflop: Villain raises, hero calls.
Flop: Hero checks, Villain checks (in position) (this is the "trigger").
Turn: Hero bets, Villain xxx this is the scenario I want to track. Villain will either fold, call, or raise.


The stats you want are Fold to T Probe Bet, Call T Probe Bet and Raise T Probe Bet. Hero's bet in that spot is called a Turn Probe Bet in PT4 terminology.

River when Skip turn Cbet IP (cbets flop and turn, checks river): fold - call - raise

Preflop: Villain raises, hero calls.
Flop: Hero checks, Villain bets, Hero calls.
Turn: Hero checks, Villain checks (in position) (this is the "trigger").
River: Hero bets, Villain xxx this is the scenario I want to track. Villain will either fold, call, or raise.


So, when "trigger" happens, I want to track Villains tendencies in the scenario, which will be his next action. [/quote]


The stats you want are Fold to R Probe Bet, Call R Probe Bet and Raise R Probe Bet. Hero's bet in that spot is called a River Probe Bet in PT4 terminology.

DNAPANDA wrote:
Fold to 4bet in SB/BB after 3betting vs steal

Preflop: Player 1 steals, SB or BB 3bets, Player 1 4bets, SB or BB folds.


This stat does not exist as a default statistic but you could built it. For good stats to reference when starting, see Fold to PF 4Bet After 3Bet and 3bet Steal.

DNAPANDA wrote:Bet IP vs Missed Cbet: flop - turn - river
Bet OOP vs Missed Cbet: turn - river


I'm not sure how these differ from the above scenarios. Please feel free to elaborate.

DNAPANDA wrote:(Bet IP) - Preflop: Hero raises, Villain calls.
Flop: Hero checks, Villain bets (in position) - I want these scenarios for flop, turn and river when the preflop-raiser checks (missed cbet)


How often villain does this is Float Flop, Float Turn and Float River.

DNAPANDA wrote:(Bet OOP) - Preflop: Hero raises, Villain calls.
Flop: Villain checks, Hero checks.
Turn: Villain bets (out of position)


How often villain does this is Probe Turn.


DNAPANDA wrote:Delayed Turn Cbet: IP - OOP - 3bet pot

Preflop: Villain raises, Hero calls.
Flop: Hero checks, Villain checks.
Turn: Hero checks, Villain bets (in position)
[/quote]

There is no default statistic for this scenario but you could certainly build one.

DNAPANDA wrote:Preflop: Villain raises, Hero calls.
Flop: Villain checks, Hero checks.
Turn: Villain bets (out of position)


There is no default statistic for this scenario either, but again it can be built.

DNAPANDA wrote:Preflop: Villain raises, Hero 3bets, Villain calls.
Flop: Villain checks, Hero checks
Turn: Villain checks, Hero bets


There is no default statistic for this scenario either, but it too can be built as a custom statistic.
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Re: Looking for some stats

Postby PandaLife » Fri Mar 23, 2012 5:31 am

Thanks, that will cover it :)
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