PFR > VPIP

[js2002]

saw PFR > VPIP in MTT today, no, I cant reproduce it.

[Furo]

saw this a few times too

[Zangeeph]

What is your point? If a player raises 100% of the time pre flop and always checks/folds on later streets, that would be expected. It's not impossible to have a PFR larger than VPIP.

[js2002]

This! It SHOULD NOT be possible. Its a trap ähm a bug ;)

[WhiteRider]

It is definitely possible - if you face a raise larger than your starting stack at your first action then you can call (VPIP) but you cannot raise (PFR).
Imagine you face a hand like this and fold. Your VPIP=0% (0/1) and PFR=N/A (0/0). In the next hand it is checked to you and you raise. Now VPIP=50% (1/2) and PFR=100% (1/1).

[js2002]

so this is why we need kraada :)

We can filter "hero is player" but only he can tell us if we can filter on 2 battleing players.

besides: adding "hero is player" doenst make sense, right?

[kraada]

The filter for Player is Hero is in large part there so that it can be used in NoteTracker definitions. This way you can create note definitions for players' ranges versus yourself. For example: use the Opponent box and set Opponent to Raise First In and Player Is Hero and then set the Player Box to 3Bet Preflop and then if the note text is 3Bet vs Hero {cardrange} you'll see the range of cards they 3bet against you.

I'm not sure what you mean by filtering for two battling players though, could you elaborate what you mean there a bit?

[js2002]

The filter for Player is Hero is in large part there so that it can be used in NoteTracker definitions. This way you can create note definitions for players' ranges versus yourself. For example: use the Opponent box and set Opponent to Raise First In and Player Is Hero and then set the Player Box to 3Bet Preflop and then if the note text is 3Bet vs Hero {cardrange} you'll see the range of cards they 3bet against you.

I'm not sure what you mean by filtering for two battling players though, could you elaborate what you mean there a bit?

so far so good, but what is opponent "box" and player "box"?

this correct usage?:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31225678/Screen ... _48_25.png

[js2002]

ah found it!
thx

[js2002]

@"battleing": I meant the thing u solved :) thx

other related topic: I wanna know if V folds comitted preflop. I cant use "eff bbs" because ALL player dealt cards are involved in this "stat". I want: V openraises and gets 3bet. then I only wanna know the eff stack of those 2 players (not even hero, just the observed hand). how is this done?

I need the committed expression working on the autonote:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31225678/Screen ... _25_49.png