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Looking to create some custom notes

Postby MoniesRemovalPLC » Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:46 pm

I am looking to create some custom notes for PT4, i really like the note system you have created useful tool thats already coming in handy in my HU battles (since there often a lot of showdowns and action). What i am looking create is Flop, Turn and River Check raise hand range notes.
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Re: Looking to create some custom notes

Postby kraada » Thu Feb 02, 2012 10:46 am

Ok, let's look at check raises on the flop.

Create a new note definition on the Edit tab using the New button. Give it the name you want and put it in category flop. Check the appropriate game box.

Now click the Player filter (we'll deal with text in a minute). This is what filters for the situation the player was involved in that matches the note.

So for example, if you want to take a note when the player check/raises the flop with no pair, no draw you'd click Player and add the filters:

Actions and Opportunities -> Flop -> Checked Flop
and
Actions and Opportunities -> Flop -> Flop Raises -> Any Raise
and
Hand Values -> Made Hands -> High Card -> On Flop
and
Hand Values -> Straight Draws -> Holdem (presumably) Straight Draws -> Straight Draw on Flop -- then use the NOT Selected button to make this filter show NOT(Straight Draw On Flop)
and
NOT (Hand Values -> Flush Draws -> Flop)

Then you can add the text you would want to see for this case, which might read:
Check/raised flop with no pair, no draw and got to showdown.

I hope that helps clarify how things work a little bit?

The Opponent button is to filter for times specific opponents did things - for example you could filter for some opponent having opened in EP to look at 3bet vs EP open ranges on the button or some such.
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Re: Looking to create some custom notes

Postby antneye » Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:45 pm

kraada wrote:Ok, let's look at check raises on the flop.

Create a new note definition on the Edit tab using the New button. Give it the name you want and put it in category flop. Check the appropriate game box.

Now click the Player filter (we'll deal with text in a minute). This is what filters for the situation the player was involved in that matches the note.

So for example, if you want to take a note when the player check/raises the flop with no pair, no draw you'd click Player and add the filters:

Actions and Opportunities -> Flop -> Checked Flop
and
Actions and Opportunities -> Flop -> Flop Raises -> Any Raise
and
Hand Values -> Made Hands -> High Card -> On Flop
and
Hand Values -> Straight Draws -> Holdem (presumably) Straight Draws -> Straight Draw on Flop -- then use the NOT Selected button to make this filter show NOT(Straight Draw On Flop)
and
NOT (Hand Values -> Flush Draws -> Flop)

Then you can add the text you would want to see for this case, which might read:
Check/raised flop with no pair, no draw and got to showdown.

I hope that helps clarify how things work a little bit?

The Opponent button is to filter for times specific opponents did things - for example you could filter for some opponent having opened in EP to look at 3bet vs EP open ranges on the button or some such.


Trying to follow along here. How are we assuring that the hand got to showdown? Is it implied in the fact that our filters refer to the hand strength that we saw his cards at showdown? Or do we have to add a filter for hand making it to showdown?
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Re: Looking to create some custom notes

Postby kraada » Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:34 pm

We don't know hand strength without a showdown unless it's for hero and the default behavior is to not take notes on hero. If you wanted to use this for yourself as well you would need to add a filter for went to showdown - but for all opponents it's implied.
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Re: Looking to create some custom notes

Postby antneye » Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:09 pm

kraada wrote:We don't know hand strength without a showdown unless it's for hero and the default behavior is to not take notes on hero. If you wanted to use this for yourself as well you would need to add a filter for went to showdown - but for all opponents it's implied.


Makes sense....I created the exact note and now the hard part is trying to find a situation where that note would be taken so I can see if it is working. I guess I need to create several iterations of this if I want to get a sense for villains full range of c/r'ing?
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Re: Looking to create some custom notes

Postby kraada » Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:16 pm

Yes you will - we considered having variables for postflop hand strength ranges, we just realized in testing that it was almost impossible to understand in actual use (especially if it really broke things down like {no pair with gutshot draw and no flush draw, no pair without gutshot draw and no flush draw, no pair with gutshot draw and flush draw, ...}.

You can use the Test screen to make sure things are working right though - find a hand where you did the action in a normal report and tag it using any tag. Then go to the NoteTracker Test window and filter for hands with that tag and test against that hand. The test window will give you notes for Hero as it makes it much easier to find cases exactly like this for testing purposes :)
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Re: Looking to create some custom notes

Postby MoniesRemovalPLC » Thu Feb 02, 2012 5:32 pm

i made a filter, which i have tested, a few questions: where are these filters stored so i can edit / erase them? Once i have created a filter i want to use to take notes with, how do i set that up? Also, is it possible to use the new filter on old hands that have already been processed by the notetaker to update my notes?
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Re: Looking to create some custom notes

Postby WhiteRider » Fri Feb 03, 2012 6:36 am

Did you test the filter using a NoteTracker rule, or using More Filters? In More Filters they're not "stored" unless you save them as a quick filter. To use a filter in NoteTracker you need to add it as a rule in NoteTracker by clicking the Player or Opponent button under "Filters".
To run filters on existing hands go to the Status tab of NoteTracker and click "Run".
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