Few opinions (HUD for small tables)

[pzameki]

I'm sure it has been mentioned but i think not emphasized correctly. For everyone that is playing smallest size tables the hud is barely readable. The fonts are too small and not "clear" or "sharp" enough. This makes 8 tabling on ongame on a 1080p screen impossible (with the quite expanded hud that i have), while with PT3 it was possible to fit it on screen and play. In PT4 the same hud takes a little less space i think (b/c of smaller fonts), but constantly trying to "make out" what is written there makes concentrating on the game harder.

Another note is that the hud outlines are bigger. Each group has more "gray area" around fonts than in PT3. This takes a bit more space unnecessarily, which i believe is precious for any person with an expanded hud.

Thirdly - the hud does not seem to be reacting to my left clicks the way i like (while 8 tabling). I have to click a few times to get the popup, and clicking on the pokertracker icon sometimes takes up to 7-8 clicks. I have quite a large database, but a very powerful computer - I7 - 6gb ram 7200 RPM drive (which is defragmented so that the DB is at the beginning)

And lastly ;) I would like to as how the caching takes place, because I'm afraid it takes place in realtime while playing. My observation is that when i open a popup of a player i haven't opened the popup for yet, it shows up empty, then 1 part of numbers show up (randomly like they are being calculated at that moment), and then a second part and then the complete version. When i opened the popup the second time, all stats are there; but if i open another player the same happens. If this is actually the case (realtime caching) - i prefer having to wait even a few hours once a time (because i can leave my PC work overnight). Having to wait for the stats while playing is much worse.

Thanks for reading my input ;)

[tarix]

Thirdly - the hud does not seem to be reacting to my left clicks the way i like (while 8 tabling). I have to click a few times to get the popup, and clicking on the pokertracker icon sometimes takes up to 7-8 clicks. I have quite a large database, but a very powerful computer - I7 - 6gb ram 7200 RPM drive (which is defragmented so that the DB is at the beginning)

Please attach logs of this to a support ticket. I don't think anything like this has been reported yet.

And lastly ;) I would like to as how the caching takes place, because I'm afraid it takes place in realtime while playing.

Yes, exactly like PT3.

My observation is that when i open a popup of a player i haven't opened the popup for yet, it shows up empty, then 1 part of numbers show up (randomly like they are being calculated at that moment), and then a second part and then the complete version.

Popups are queried on demand as opposed to being queried every hand. This greatly reduces the load on your computer while running the HUD. The second set of values is probably all of your custom stats. Are you using a hud imported from PT3?

[pzameki]

Which logs should i attach?

Are previous logs stored somewhere? My HUD log is 0bytes and my pt4 is 16kb (from just opening and closing pt4) so they are clear. Do i have to recreate the issue and then post log directly after closing PT4?

As for the HUD i'm using, It's the Advanced M3 Cash hud (i'm not sure if it happens on both profiles - downloaded from repository and imported from pt3 - i will check and report on that later). The funny thing though is i (the left clicking issue)t happens not only with stats, but also with the pokertracker icon at the top of the table. right clicks work every time.

Getting back to logs. PokerTrackerHud4.log is the one you need you will have to wait for that a bit, since i don't know if i have the time to redo the actions today if necessary. On the other hand if the logs are stored somewhere (which seems they arent, and seems at least for the beta stage that the old log should be copied to a diff folder rather than replaced) let me know, i will send it right away.

[random]

For me problem with double clicking seems to be if I dont click exactly on the text, but rather on the background/panel, then nothing happens. Considering whole background changes color, one would expect we can click anywhere inside panel.

[pzameki]

yes, that is another good point. The popup pops up when i click in the middle, if not it seems to have problems if i don't set each stat separately to activate popup.

But mine is a little different issue overally, since it affects the PT4 button too (this for bringing up settings of hud). and there is no text there, and i've been trying to click in the middle FWIW ;)

[kraada]

pzameki:

Both log files would be preferable, but they are overwritten when you restart PT4, so we would need you to reproduce the situation and then send us logs directly after. They are written as PT4 is running so you don't actually need to stop PT4, just send us the files after the situation occurs.

random:

I just tried and wasn't able to reproduce this behavior - are you using the default HUD?

[pzameki]

this doesn't seem to be happening to me now as well, so tough luck with that. small tables make things tough to read though so kindly please do sth with that

[WhiteRider]

You can change the font size so that it is bigger on your tables. You can select all stats at once by clicking the first in the list in the top centre and then shift-clicking the last in the list. Now make the font bigger in the Properties.

[pzameki]

I did, the problem persists. The font isn't as solid as it should be (or rather as it was in pt3)

[PJs Ronin]

For me problem with double clicking seems to be if I dont click exactly on the text, but rather on the background/panel, then nothing happens. Considering whole background changes color, one would expect we can click anywhere inside panel.

I'm also getting this.