Raise C-bet include Check Raises?

[oracle3001]

Does the stat Raise C-Bet include check raises or just the action going c-bet / raise (rather than check / c-bet / raise) , and likewise told to c-bet raise?

[kraada]

Check Raises are included in these statistics.

[oracle3001]

So say SB opens, BB 3 bets, SB calls...now as far as I can think only way SB can raise a c-bet is if they check raise the flop, the stat raises c-bet in 3 bet pot (filtered for just SB) will give this and only this scenario..correct?

[oracle3001]

Ignore above...I don't think what I want to do is possible with just default stats...

i.e see how often if SB opens, BB 3bets, SB calls, then SB c/r's the flop.

[oracle3001]

Just a thought...your Raise C-bet stat has the option to filter by IP and OOP...surely then "check raise" stat is redundant as an OOP c-bet raise is by its nature simply a check raise.

[kraada]

Check Raise doesn't require the bet to be a continuation bet though - you can be the preflop aggressor, elect not to cbet but Check Raise.

They may be close (or even identical) for certain players in certain games but it's not true on the whole that they are functionally identical stats.

[oracle3001]

Yes good point.