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Note Tracker Questions

Postby Messenjupp » Fri Dec 23, 2011 9:15 pm

Just went over some Note Tracker Notes and kinda curious on one I fould

[F] Raised Flop Cbet w/Overpair or less & no draw (1)

Since there is only the number one behind I assume it happened only one time...so how is it possible that someone raises a flop cbet with an overpair or less? I mean...if it only happened once it has to be an overpair or not, right? Or do I miss something?

Also...I noticed that sometimes when I have a lot of hands on someone I obvioulsy get more notes/reads and often times it says (click to see additional notes)...is there some sort of setting where I can change how many notes I can see whithout clicking on the note icon? It seems to be capped at 11 notes plus the click messag....but I dont mind a longer list without clicking on the note icon. So is it possible?
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Re: Note Tracker Questions

Postby Messenjupp » Sat Dec 24, 2011 9:46 am

Got a third question......is there a way to have a certain BB requirement for some of the notes...what I mean by that is that I play 6max but also nitring and I'm a little concerned about the accuracy of some of the notes...for example I have Note Tracker Notes on a guy that say that he 4bets 88/99 at nitring too but I'm 100% sure that this was only against a shorty cause he otherwise plays pretty taggy and would never 4bet those hands 100bb deep.....and since I play 100bb all the time I would prefer some of the preflop notes to be only against other at least 80bb+ stacks....guess you get what I mean by now so is that kinda possible right now?
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Re: Note Tracker Questions

Postby WhiteRider » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:38 am

Messenjupp wrote:Just went over some Note Tracker Notes and kinda curious on one I fould

[F] Raised Flop Cbet w/Overpair or less & no draw (1)

Since there is only the number one behind I assume it happened only one time...so how is it possible that someone raises a flop cbet with an overpair or less? I mean...if it only happened once it has to be an overpair or not, right? Or do I miss something?

I don't quite follow.. That note says that the player raised a flop cbet with an overpair or better once. It isn't checking for "overpair" and "or better" separately, it's checking for "overpair or better".

Also...I noticed that sometimes when I have a lot of hands on someone I obvioulsy get more notes/reads and often times it says (click to see additional notes)...is there some sort of setting where I can change how many notes I can see whithout clicking on the note icon? It seems to be capped at 11 notes plus the click messag....but I dont mind a longer list without clicking on the note icon. So is it possible?

This can't be configured at the moment, although this request has already been made. You can have a lot of notes on players with a lot of hands, and having them all displayed in the tooltip can mean that it overflows the whole screen, which is worse.

Messenjupp wrote:Got a third question......is there a way to have a certain BB requirement for some of the notes...what I mean by that is that I play 6max but also nitring and I'm a little concerned about the accuracy of some of the notes...for example I have Note Tracker Notes on a guy that say that he 4bets 88/99 at nitring too but I'm 100% sure that this was only against a shorty cause he otherwise plays pretty taggy and would never 4bet those hands 100bb deep.....and since I play 100bb all the time I would prefer some of the preflop notes to be only against other at least 80bb+ stacks....guess you get what I mean by now so is that kinda possible right now?

You can include effective stacks in the filters, or you could specify the stack size of the particular opponent who made certain actions via the Opponents button filters.
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Re: Note Tracker Questions

Postby Messenjupp » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:41 am

I dont follow you right now...I copied the note and it says raises with an overpair or less and it happened only once...so again...how can someone raise once WITH an overpair OR less...dont get it...sorry.
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Re: Note Tracker Questions

Postby WhiteRider » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:46 am

It means they either had an overpair or less once when they raised. It isn't "(with an overpair) or (with less)", it's "with (an overpair or less)".
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Re: Note Tracker Questions

Postby WhiteRider » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:47 am

The note is checking for whenever the player has an overpair or worse on the flop, did they raise.
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Re: Note Tracker Questions

Postby Messenjupp » Sat Dec 24, 2011 10:56 am

Still not sure I totally understand that...sorry...so what does less mean in this context? Less means anything below an overpair? So ace high too? Guess I'm having trouble on the definition cause since it went to showdown Note Tracker knows the hand...so IMO it should read more like raised flop with an overpair if it was an overpair or raised flop with ace high if it was ace high..I mean...why the assumptions when we only have one example to go with?

And that it only happened once means what exactly? Can it also be 1 out of 4 but it only shows he did it once or did it exactly once that he raised the flop once that also went to showdown?
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Re: Note Tracker Questions

Postby random » Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:07 am

Messenjupp wrote:Still not sure I totally understand that...sorry...so what does less mean in this context? Less means anything below an overpair? So ace high too? Guess I'm having trouble on the definition cause since it went to showdown Note Tracker knows the hand...so IMO it should read more like raised flop with an overpair if it was an overpair or raised flop with ace high if it was ace high..I mean...why the assumptions when we only have one example to go with?

And that it only happened once means what exactly? Can it also be 1 out of 4 but it only shows he did it once or did it exactly once that he raised the flop once that also went to showdown?


Yeah it is including everything. 2pair set quads etc = NO overpair, pair, high card = YES (it doesnt detect that you raised with pair and then say pair or less, it only looks if its bigger or smaller value then overpair)
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Re: Note Tracker Questions

Postby WhiteRider » Sat Dec 24, 2011 12:16 pm

Notes are to display ranges and counts of specific situations where we know how a player played certain hands, for example. If you want to know the percentage of times something happened you're better off with a stat.
As random says, the note text isn't dynamically generated based on what happened in the hand - it displays that text if that note applies. So that note is checking for times that the player raised when they had an overpair or worse. I didn't design the rules, but it sounds like that would be to tell you that a player is capable of raising a cbet with a [fairly] weak hand.
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