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"Real hours month" calculation for alias

PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2022 8:30 pm
by CygNu5X1
Hello, I have a question about aliases.

I recently started playing multiple sites and thus I started using an alias to see my results all in one place.

As I want to keep track of my hourly winrate, I use the stat "Real hours month" - with the description "Total actual hours played (multitabling)".
So far it was a great way to calculate my hourly using this stat, but I have the following concern:

- I play 3 separate poker rooms
- I play 2 of them on one of my computers ( PC1 ) and play the third one on my secondary pc (pc2) but I play all these 3 sites at the same time (I use both of these computers at the same time)
- PC1 has a different time zone setting than PC2

How does PT4 (or the poker clients) save the hand histories with the timestamp? Is it based on the time setting of the computer it was played on? How does PT4 get the amount of hours I played?
I am a bit concerned that when I mix the hand histories from what I mentioned above the stat "Real hours month" will be inaccurate and actually display much more hours than I played in reality.

Can anyone please explain the mechanic between these, or how can I actually track the time properly using PT4?

TYSM!

Re: "Real hours month" calculation for alias

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 5:29 am
by Flag_Hippo
CygNu5X1 wrote:How does PT4 (or the poker clients) save the hand histories with the timestamp?

Hand history files specify the time a hand was played and most poker sites provide files in a format which you can open with a text editor such as NotePad so you can read the contents of those files for yourself.
CygNu5X1 wrote:Is it based on the time setting of the computer it was played on?

Most poker sites also specify the timezone in the hand histories (iPoker does not) and when they are imported into PokerTracker 4 that will get converted to the time used by that computer/PostgreSQL.
CygNu5X1 wrote:How does PT4 get the amount of hours I played?

PokerTracker 4 calculates how many minutes have been played from the hand histories and for the 'Real Hours Month' statistic it takes the number of minutes played for the Month and divides that by 60. Note that new sessions in PokerTracker 4 are only started if there is more than 30 minutes between hands and that isn't configurable.

Re: "Real hours month" calculation for alias

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:17 am
by CygNu5X1
Hey man,

thanks for the reply.
I checked the hand history files. I play Pokerstars, iPoker and Ignition.
Pokerstars provides the time zone, iPoker doesnt, and Ignition doesnt.

Do I understand it correctly that it means the "Hours played" will probably be screwed?
Thanks!

Re: "Real hours month" calculation for alias

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 12:49 pm
by Flag_Hippo
CygNu5X1 wrote:I checked the hand history files. I play Pokerstars, iPoker and Ignition.
Pokerstars provides the time zone, iPoker doesnt, and Ignition doesnt.

Our Ignition hand grabber does specify a timezone in the hand histories so if you are using other software to generate your Ignition hands then we don't officially support those and as far as I know downloaded Ignition hands are always US Eastern time even if it's not specified so that's known. The difference with iPoker is that they have different clients across the world and different client settings which can change the time in the hand histories without specifying what the timezone used actually is.
CygNu5X1 wrote:Do I understand it correctly that it means the "Hours played" will probably be screwed?

If you import hands on one computer and import that same sample on another computer then statistics like 'Real Hours Month' will be the same unless, for example, iPoker is not configured correctly on each device.
CygNu5X1 wrote:I am a bit concerned that when I mix the hand histories from what I mentioned above the stat "Real hours month" will be inaccurate and actually display much more hours than I played in reality.

If you play one hour on PC1 and one hour at the same time on PC2 and then import PC2 hands into PC1 it will still be 1 hour of real time played on PC1.

Re: "Real hours month" calculation for alias

PostPosted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 8:49 pm
by CygNu5X1
Flag_Hippo wrote:If you play one hour on PC1 and one hour at the same time on PC2 and then import PC2 hands into PC1 it will still be 1 hour of real time played on PC1.


This was exactly my question. Thanks.

So, just to make sure I understand it correctly:
- If I play PokerStars and iPoker on PC1 and at the same time play Ignition on PC2 and then I import hands from PC2 to PC 1 (not using a card catcher, just the downloaded hand histories from client) the "Real Hours Month" stat will be correct

Is that correct?

Thanks!!

Re: "Real hours month" calculation for alias

PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 5:27 am
by Flag_Hippo
Yes.