3bet multiple of 2bet size between 4 and 4

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Re: 3bet multiple of 2bet size between 4 and 4

Postby js2002 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:02 am

STILL BUGGED calculation:

Filter for not blinds
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31225678/Screen ... _53_20.png

Result not blinds
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31225678/Screen ... _53_05.png
(6-2)*3=12 in my eyes and not 18!

Result blinds (BB threebets)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/31225678/Screen ... _52_29.png
(6-2)*3=12 correct!

I took ur formula.
I guess in case one somebody juste calculated with "my formula": 2bet size*3

inconsistent! Please fix it!
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Re: 3bet multiple of 2bet size between 4 and 4

Postby kraada » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:01 am

In direct response to your feedback and discussion with others we changed it to be what we thought people naively expect - that is take the amount that a player raises to (e.g. $6) and multiply it by 3 (e.g. to $18) and that is the value that this is now attempting to show. That means we still clearly have a problem (in the big blind case) - but I will make sure this continues to be worked on and gets fixed.
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Re: 3bet multiple of 2bet size between 4 and 4

Postby js2002 » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:13 am

watch out:
"% of pot" and "in bigblinds" filter will be misunderstood too.

I suggest:

the bigblind (and %pot filter) should also be defined like 99% of the user think these things would behave.
Just test following i report: "active player faces a 2bet between 3 and 3 bigblinds" -> u will see that it is messed up in the blinds, too. Why? Because the amount is not taken, u strangely take the difference f.e. 2betsize minus SB for SB. Example from NL5 with this filter: somebody raises to 0.17 and the the hand did not get filtered out because for the SB who posted 0.02 it was 3bb, that LOL dont u think too?
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Re: 3bet multiple of 2bet size between 4 and 4

Postby js2002 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:02 am

hello?
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Re: 3bet multiple of 2bet size between 4 and 4

Postby WhiteRider » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:11 am

FWIW I agree - we'll discuss this further with the development team.
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Re: 3bet multiple of 2bet size between 4 and 4

Postby js2002 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:29 am

WhiteRider wrote:FWIW I agree - we'll discuss this further with the development team.


good
I really tried 2 hours or more to build a "small 3bet range" autonote.
Its just dont possible without having a filter that exeeds every tft^^
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Re: 3bet multiple of 2bet size between 4 and 4

Postby js2002 » Sat Jun 09, 2012 5:01 pm

any news on this?
I still want to find out what range "player" has when raising "quite" small as 3bet

AND

what range "player" has when raising "normal" as 3bet

AND

what range "player" has when raising "large" as 3bet
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Re: 3bet multiple of 2bet size between 4 and 4

Postby kraada » Sun Jun 10, 2012 9:56 am

Other than the big blind case things should be working properly at this point in time. Building the filters out to handle the big blind case is a bit complicated, so it may take us a little while to find a way to make it work well.
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Re: 3bet multiple of 2bet size between 4 and 4

Postby js2002 » Sun Jun 10, 2012 11:39 am

can i download these rules somewhere/sometime?
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